UJASMIN GRAHAM: Uninzi lokutya kwethu kukutya kwaselwandle, ngoko ke ngokucacileyo kubaluleke kakhulu kubomi bosapho lwam nakuyo yonke into.
Graham: Ndim umntu ongaqhelekanga, ebebuza imibuzo enje, ebezothini xa intlanzi ingekho kwi plate yethu?Bahlala ngaselwandle.Banobomi bonke.Ihamba njani le nto?Kwaye, uyazi, usapho lwam luya kuthi, ubuza imibuzo emininzi;utya intlanzi kuphela.
SOFIA: Kwakungekho emva kohambo lwesikolo samabanga aphakamileyo apho uJasmin wafunda ukuba kukho inkalo epheleleyo yophando olukhethekileyo kwisayensi yolwandle.
Nozipho: Ngokuqinisekileyo baya kwenjenjalo.Ekugqibeleni uJasmin wafumana isidanga sebhayoloji kwibhayoloji yaselwandle, apho wafunda ngendaleko yeehammerhead sharks.Kamva, kwinkosi yakhe, wagxila kwi-sawfish esengozini yokuphela.Yiba nomfanekiso we-stingray ebhityileyo enencakuba ye-chainsaw edityaniswe ebusweni bayo.
Nozipho: Ewe.Ndiyathetha, ndithanda ukukhanya okulungileyo.Ndithanda ukukhanya okulungileyo.Andiyiboni nje imisebe emininzi-enje, ikhangeleka-ikhangeleka ngathi yintlanzi yeesarha.uyayazi ndithetha ukuthini?
USOFIA: Kodwa ingxaki, utshilo uJasmin, impumelelo kweli candelo alithandayo ngokobuqu nangomsebenzi inokuba yedwa kakhulu.
UGraham: Kuwo onke amava am, andizange ndambona omnye umfazi ontsundu efunda ngokrebe.Ndadibana nebhinqa elintsundu kuphela kwinzululwazi yaselwandle, yaye ngelo xesha ndandineminyaka engama-23 ubudala.Ke phantse bonke ubuntwana bakho kunye nobomi obutsha obudala abumbonanga umntu okhangeleka ngathi wenza le nto ubufuna ukuyenza, ndiyathetha, ipholile njengoko sisitsho, njengokuqhekeza isilingi yeglasi… …
USOFIA: Kunyaka ophelileyo, imeko kaJasmin yatshintsha.Nge-hashtag ethi #BlackInNature, uye waseka unxibelelwano nabanye abafazi abantsundu abafunda ngookrebe.
UGraham: Ewe, xa sasiqala ukudibana kwi-Twitter, yayingamava omlingo.Ndiyifanisa naxa uphelelwe ngamanzi emzimbeni, uyazi, usentlango okanye kwenye indawo, usele ukusela amanzi okokuqala, kwaye awuqondi ukuba unxaniwe kangakanani na de usele amanzi okuqala.
SOFIA: Loo ncindi yamanzi yajika yaba yindawo yokuphumla, umbutho omtsha obizwa ngokuba yiMinorities in Shark Sciences okanye iMISS.Ke kumboniso namhlanje, uJasmin Graham wathetha ngokwakha uluntu lwesayensi yookrebe kubafazi bemibala.
I-SOFIA: Ke uJasmin Graham kunye nabanye abathathu abaphandi ababhinqileyo ookrebe abamnyama-u-Amani Webber-Schultz, uCarlee Jackson, kunye noJaida Elcock-baseke unxibelelwano kwi-Twitter.Emva koko, nge-1 kaJuni kulo nyaka uphelileyo, baseka umbutho omtsha iMISS.Injongo-Khuthaza kwaye uxhase abafazi bemibala kwinkalo yesayensi yokrebe.
UGraham: Ekuqaleni, uyazi, besifuna nje ukwakha uluntu.Sifuna nje abanye abafazi bebala bazi ukuba ababodwa, kwaye ayimangalisi into yokuba bafuna ukwenjenjalo.Kwaye abangobafazi kuba befuna ukwenza oku.Abangomnyama, umthonyama okanye uLatino, kuba bafuna ukwenza njalo, banokuba nazo zonke iinkcukacha zabo, babe ngusosayensi kwaye bafunde ookrebe.Kwaye ezi zinto azihlukani.Ifuna nje ukususa imiqobo ekhoyo ukusuka apho.Le miqobo isenza sizive siphantsi, kwaye isenza sizive singengabo, kuba bubudenge obo.Emva koko saqala…
Nozipho: Bubudenge obu.Le yindlela-ndiyayithanda indlela othetha ngayo.Ewe, ngokupheleleyo.Kodwa ndiyathetha, ndicinga ukuba yinyani leyo-kukho izinto ezimbalwa endifuna ukuzibamba kwaye ndithethe nawe kwangoko, kuba, uyazi, uthi, ngathi-andazi-utsho njalo, ewe kumnandi yaphula isilingi yeglasi, kodwa xa uyenza, kubi kancinci.uyazi?Njenge, ndicinga ukuba kukho umbono onjalo, njengawo, ngaloo maxesha, ufana, siyayenza le nto.Kufana nazo zonke izinto ezikhuthazayo, kodwa kufuna umsebenzi omninzi, njengokungazithembi kunye nazo zonke izinto ezifanayo.So ndifuna ukwazi ukuba uzimisele na ukuthetha nam ngalento.
UGraham: Ewe, kunjalo.Le yenye yezinto endizifuna kakhulu ukuba yinzululwazi…
UGraham: …yenza inzululwazi ngaphandle kokuthwala ubunzima obuninzi okanye umthwalo.Kodwa lawo ngamakhadi endiwafumeneyo.Sonke sisifumene isisombululo kule ngxaki.Ngoko ke indlela endijongana ngayo nayo kukwenza konke okusemandleni am ukuqinisekisa ukuba umthwalo kuye wonke umntu osemva kwam ulula.Ndinqwenela ukuba, uyazi, ukuya ezintlanganisweni kwaye ndizulazule njengaye wonke umntu…
UGraham: ... kwaye ngaphandle kwamathandabuzo.Kodwa hayi, kuye kufuneke ndijonge ukuba ngaba abantu banobundlobongela obuncinci.Kwaye, kufana...
Graham: …Kutheni usitsho nje?Ukuba bendimhlophe ubuzoyithetha lento kum?Ukuba bendiyindoda, ubunokuthi kum?Ngenene, ndingumntu ongaxabaniyo, nongazinzanga.Ndifuna ukuba ndodwa.Kodwa ukuba ndenza ngolo hlobo kwaye ndikhangeleke njengam, abantu baya kubaleka kum.
Graham: Ngoko kufuneka ndomelele kakhulu.Kufuneka ndithathe indawo.Ndimele ndingxole.Kwaye kufuneka ndizenze zonke ezi zinto zichasene nobuntu bam ukuze ndibekhona kwaye ndiviwe, nto leyo ekhathaza kakhulu.
Nozipho: Ewe.Ngokuqinisekileyo.Ufuna nje ukumamela intetho ephakathi, usele ibhiya ephakathi, emva koko ubuze umbuzo jikelele ekupheleni kwentetho yesayensi, uyazi?Kwaye nje…
Nozipho: Kulungile.Ngoko makhe sithethe ngakumbi ngale nto.Ke ngoko, ekuqaleni ujonge ukubonelela ngeendibano zocweyo zabasetyhini abanemibala kwicandelo lesayensi yokrebe.Ngaba ungandixelela injongo yolu cweyo?
Graham: Ewe.Ke umbono wocweyo, kufuneka siwusebenzise endaweni yokuba liqela labantu asele besenza isayensi.Kufuneka sisebenzise eli thuba ukukhuthaza abafazi bebala abangekangeni kwisayensi yookrebe nabangenamava.Bayangxola nje bezama ukuyifumana.Ngoko siye sagqiba ekubeni siyenze ibe luhlobo lokufundisa endaweni yokuchitha ixesha.Siyathemba kwakhona ukuba ikhululekile kubathathi-nxaxheba, kuba izithintelo zezoqoqosho zokungena kwiinzululwazi zaselwandle ziyimiqobo enkulu ejongene nabantu abaninzi.
UGraham: Inzululwazi yaselwandle ayakhelwanga abantu abakwimo ethile yezentlalo noqoqosho.Oku kucacile kwaye kulula.Bafana, kufuneka ufumane amava.Kodwa kufuneka uhlawule la mava.
Graham: Oh, awukwazi ukuhlawula loo mava?Ewe, xa ndibona i-resume yakho, ndiya kugweba ukuba awunamava.oku akulunganga.Ke sigqibe kwelokuba, siza kubamba le semina yeentsuku ezintathu.Siya kuqinisekisa ukuba ikhululekile ukususela kwixesha apho abathathi-nxaxheba baphuma ngomnyango wangaphambili ukuya kutsho xa bebuyela ekhaya.Savula isicelo.Isicelo sethu sibandakanya kangangoko sinakho.Besingayifuni iGPA.Asizange sicele amanqaku ovavanyo.Akufuneki nokuba bamkelwe eyunivesithi.Kufuneka bacacise kuphela ukuba kutheni benomdla kwisayensi yookrebe, le nto iya kuba nayo, kwaye kutheni benomdla wokuba lilungu le-MISS.
I-SOFIA: I-seminar yokuqala ye-MISS yayibanjelwe eBiscayne Bay, eFlorida ekuqaleni kwalo nyaka, ngenxa yomsebenzi onzima kunye neminikelo eninzi, kubandakanywa nokusetyenziswa kwenqanawa yophando yeSikole seSikole.Abafazi abalishumi bebala bafumene amava asebenzayo kuphando lokrebe ngempelaveki, kuquka ukufunda ukuloba ngeentambo ezinde (ubuchule bokuloba) kunye nokumakisha ookrebe.UJasmin uthe umzuzu awuthandayo usekupheleni kosuku lokugqibela.
Graham: Sihleli sonke phandle mna nomsunguli ngoba sithe umntu xa enemibuzo ngomzuzu wokugqibela sizobe singaphandle xa upakisha.Yiza uthethe nathi.Baphuma ngamnye ngamnye, basibuza imibuzo yabo yokugqibela, baza basichazela ukuba ngempelaveki ithetha ntoni kubo.Kangangexeshana ndaziva ngathi ndiza kulila.kwaye...
Graham: Umjongile nje umntu emehlweni athi, ubutshintshile ubomi bam, ukuba andidibananga nawe, ukuba andinalo amava anje, andiqondi ukuba ndingayenza, ndadibana nabo bonke. kubo Abanye abafazi bemibala nabo bazama ukungena kwintsimi yesayensi yokrebe-kwaye babona impembelelo kuba le nto sixoxe ngayo.Kwaye wena, njengokuba, uyazi engqondweni yakho, owu, oku kuya kuba kuhle.Oku kuya kutshintsha ubomi-dah (ph), dah-dah, dah-dah, willy-nilly.
Kodwa xa bejonga umntu emehlweni bathi andiziboni ndihlakaniphe ngokwaneleyo, andiqondi ukuba ndingayenza lento, ndicinga ukuba ndingumntu, le weekend itshintshile kanye le nto siyifunayo kum. Yenza.Amaxesha anyanisekileyo nabantu obaphembelelayo nje-andizukuyitshintsha le nto ngayo nantoni na ehlabathini.Leyo yaba yeyona mvakalelo ibalaseleyo.Andikhathali nokuba ndiphumelele iBhaso likaNobel okanye ndipapashe iwaka lamaphepha.Ngelo xesha umntu wathi undenzele lento ndizoqhubeka nokupha.Ngenye imini ndofana nawe ndihambe emva kwam.Ndiza kunceda nabafazi bebala, oku kukuncamisa nje kumpheki.igqibelele.
SOFIA: Ndiyayithanda indlela ojongeka ngayo, yile nto kanye ndiyilindeleyo.Andikho ready tu.
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