JASMIN GRAHAM: Zakudya zathu zambiri ndi za m'nyanja, kotero mwachiwonekere ndizofunikira kwambiri pa moyo wa banja langa ndi chirichonse.
Graham: Ndine munthu wodabwitsa, amafunsa mafunso ngati, kodi angatani ngati nsomba palibe pa mbale yathu?Amakhala m'mphepete mwa nyanja.Iwo ali ndi moyo wonse.Kodi izi zikuyenda bwanji?Ndipo, mukudziwa, banja langa lidzati, mumafunsa mafunso ambiri;mumadya nsomba zokha.
SOFIA: Sipanapite ulendo wakusekondale pamene Jasmin anaphunzira kuti pali gawo lathunthu la kafukufuku wokhudza sayansi ya m’madzi.
Mayi Phiri: Adzaterodi.Patapita nthawi, Jasmin analandira digiri ya bachelor mu sayansi ya zamoyo zam'madzi, komwe anaphunzira za kusintha kwa shaki za hammerhead.Pambuyo pake, kwa mbuye wake, iye anaika maganizo ake pa kansomba kakang'ono kamene kamakhala pangozi.Tangoganizani stingray yowonda yokhala ndi tsamba la tcheni wowotcherera kumaso kwake.
Mayi Phiri: Inde.Ndikutanthauza, ndimakonda kuwala kwabwino.Ndimakonda kuwala kwabwino.Sindimawona kuwala kochuluka chotere, kumawoneka ngati nsomba za macheka.mukudziwa zomwe ndikutanthauza?
SOFIA: Koma vuto ndilakuti Jasmin adati kupambana pankhaniyi komwe amamukonda komanso mwaukadaulo kuthanso kukhala kwakutali.
Graham: Muzochitika zanga zonse, sindinaonepo mkazi wina wakuda akuphunzira za shaki.Ndinangokumana ndi mayi wakuda wa sayansi ya m’madzi, ndipo m’pamene ndinali ndi zaka 23.Chifukwa chake pafupifupi ubwana wanu wonse komanso moyo waunyamata sunawone munthu yemwe amaoneka ngati inu akuchita zomwe mukufuna kuchita, ndikutanthauza, ozizira monga timanenera, ngati kuthyola denga lagalasi… …
SOFIA: Chaka chatha, zinthu za Jasmin zinasintha.Kudzera mu hashtag #BlackInNature, adakhazikitsa kulumikizana ndi azimayi ena akuda omwe amaphunzira za shaki.
Graham: Chabwino, titakumana koyamba pa Twitter, zinali zamatsenga kwambiri.Ndikufananiza ndi pamene mulibe madzi m'thupi, mukudziwa, muli m'chipululu kapena kwina kulikonse, mumamwa madzi anu oyamba, ndipo simuzindikira kuti muli ndi ludzu bwanji mpaka mutamwa madzi oyamba.
SOFIA: Kumwa madzi kumeneko kunasanduka malo osambira, bungwe latsopano lotchedwa Minorities in Shark Sciences kapena MISS.Kotero muwonetsero lero, Jasmin Graham analankhula za kumanga gulu la sayansi ya shark kwa amayi amtundu.
SOFIA: Chifukwa chake Jasmin Graham ndi ofufuza ena atatu aakazi a shark-Amani Webber-Schultz, Carlee Jackson, ndi Jaida Elcock-akhazikitsa kulumikizana pa Twitter.Kenako, pa June 1 chaka chatha, adakhazikitsa bungwe latsopano la MISS.Cholinga-Limbikitsani ndi kuthandizira amayi amitundu mu sayansi ya shark.
Graham: Pachiyambi, mukudziwa, tinkangofuna kumanga mudzi.Timangofuna kuti akazi ena achikuda adziwe kuti sali okha, ndipo n’zosadabwitsa kuti akufuna kutero.Ndipo si akazi chifukwa amafuna kuchita zimenezi.Iwo si akuda, mbadwa kapena Latino, chifukwa akufuna kutero, akhoza kukhala ndi zidziwitso zawo zonse, kukhala asayansi ndi kuphunzira shaki.Ndipo zinthu izi sizigwirizana.Ikungofuna kuchotsa zopinga zomwe zilipo kumeneko.Zopinga zimenezi zimatipangitsa kudziona ngati otsika, ndipo zimatipangitsa kudziona kuti ndife osafunika, chifukwa zimenezo n’zachabechabe.Kenako tinayamba…
Mayi Phiri: Zimenezitu n’zachabechabe.Iyi ndi njira-ndimakonda momwe mumanenera.Inde, mwamtheradi.Koma ndikutanthauza, ndikuganiza kuti ndizowona-pali zinthu zingapo zomwe, monga, ndikufuna kuti ndikugwireni ndikulankhula nanu, chifukwa, mukudziwa, mumati, monga-sindikudziwa-kunena, inde, ndizabwino kuswa denga la galasi, koma mukatero, ndizoipa pang'ono.mukudziwa?Monga, ndikuganiza kuti pali lingaliro lotero, monga, panthawi imeneyo, mumakhala ngati, tikuchita izi.Zili ngati zinthu zonse zolimbikitsa, koma zimafuna ntchito yambiri, monga kudzikayikira ndi zinthu zonse zofanana.Chifukwa chake ndikufuna kudziwa ngati mukufuna kuyankhula ndi ine zambiri za izi.
Graham: Inde, ndithudi.Ichi ndi chimodzi mwazinthu zomwe ndikufuna kwambiri kukhala wasayansi ...
Graham: …kuchita sayansi popanda kusenza kulemera kapena kulemedwa.Koma awa ndi makhadi omwe ndili nawo.Tonse tapeza njira yothetsera vutoli.Choncho mmene ndimachitira ndi kuchita zonse zimene ndingathe kuonetsetsa kuti mtolo wa aliyense amene ali kumbuyo kwanga ukhale wopepuka.Ndikanakonda, mukudziwa, kupita kumisonkhano ndikuyendayenda monga wina aliyense…
Graham: ... ndipo popanda zokhumudwitsa.Koma ayi, nthawi zambiri ndimayenera kuyang'ana ngati anthu ali aukali.Ndipo, zili ngati…
Graham: …N’chifukwa chiyani mukunena choncho?Ndikanakhala mzungu, munganene izi kwa ine?Ndikanakhala mwamuna, munganene izi kwa ine?Monga, ine sindine wokonda kukangana, munthu wokonda kucheza.Ndikufuna kukhala ndekha.Koma ngati ndichita monga choncho ndikuwoneka ngati ine, anthu adzandithamangira.
Graham: Choncho ndiyenera kukhala wamphamvu kwambiri.Ndiyenera kutenga danga.Ndiyenera kukhala mokweza.Ndipo ndiyenera kuchita zinthu zonsezi zomwe zimatsutsana ndi umunthu wanga kuti ndikhalepo ndikumveka, zomwe zimakhumudwitsa kwambiri.
Mayi Phiri: Inde.Mwamtheradi.Mukungofuna kumvetsera zokamba zapakati, kumwa mowa wapakatikati, ndiyeno funsani funso wamba kumapeto kwa phunziro la sayansi, kodi mukudziwa?Ndipo basi…
Mayi Phiri: Chabwino.Ndiye tiyeni tikambirane zambiri za izi.Chifukwa chake, poyambilira mukufuna kupereka maphunziro a akazi amitundu mu sayansi ya shark.Kodi mungandiuze cholinga cha maphunzirowa?
Graham: Inde.Chifukwa chake lingaliro la msonkhanowu, tiyenera kuligwiritsa ntchito m'malo mokhala gulu la anthu omwe akuchita kale sayansi.Tiyenera kugwiritsa ntchito mwayiwu kulimbikitsa amayi amitundu omwe sanalowe mu sayansi ya shark ndipo alibe chidziwitso.Akungokuwa kuti apeze.Choncho tinaganiza zopanga kukhala ngati kuphunzitsa m’malo mocheza.Tikuyembekezanso kuti ndi ufulu kwa otenga nawo mbali, chifukwa zolepheretsa zachuma kulowa mu sayansi ya m'nyanja ndizo zolepheretsa zazikulu zomwe anthu ambiri amakumana nazo.
Graham: Sayansi yam'madzi simapangidwira anthu omwe ali ndi chikhalidwe china chazachuma.Izi ndi zomveka komanso zosavuta.Iwo ali ngati, inu muyenera kupeza zinachitikira.Koma muyenera kulipira chifukwa cha izi.
Graham: O, simungathe kulipira chifukwa cha zomwezo?Chabwino, ndikawona pitilizani wanu, Ine adzaweruza kuti ndinu osadziwa.izi sizachilungamo.Chifukwa chake tinaganiza, chabwino, tikhala ndi semina yamasiku atatu iyi.Tiwonetsetsa kuti ndi yaulere kuyambira pomwe otenga nawo mbali atuluka pakhomo lakumaso mpaka atabwerera kwawo.Tinatsegula pulogalamu.Ntchito yathu ndi yophatikiza momwe tingathere.Sitinafune GPA.Sitinafunse kuti atipatse mayeso.Safunikanso kuloledwa ku yunivesite.Amangofunika kufotokoza chifukwa chake ali ndi chidwi ndi sayansi ya shark, momwe izi zingakhudzire, komanso chifukwa chomwe akufuna kukhala membala wa MISS.
SOFIA: Seminara yoyamba ya MISS inachitikira ku Biscayne Bay, Florida kumayambiriro kwa chaka chino, chifukwa cha khama lalikulu komanso zopereka zambiri, kuphatikizapo kugwiritsa ntchito sitima yofufuza za Field School.Azimayi khumi amitundu yosiyanasiyana adapeza luso lochita kafukufuku wa shaki kumapeto kwa sabata, kuphatikizapo kuphunzira usodzi wautali (njira yopha nsomba) ndi kuyika zizindikiro pa shaki.Jasmin adati nthawi yomwe amakonda kwambiri ili kumapeto kwa tsiku lomaliza.
Graham: Tonse takhala panja, woyambitsa ndi ine, chifukwa tinanena kuti ngati wina ali ndi mafunso panthawi yomaliza, tidzakhala panja mukanyamula katundu.Bwerani mudzalankhule nafe.Anatuluka mmodzimmodzi, natifunsa mafunso awo omalizira, ndiyeno anatifotokozera tanthauzo la mlunguwo kwa iwo.Kwa kanthawi kochepa ndinamva ngati ndatsala pang'ono kulira.ndi…
Graham: Kungoyang'ana munthu m'maso mwawo, adati, mudasintha moyo wanga, ngati sindinakumane nanu, ngati ndilibe chidziwitso chotere, sindikuganiza kuti ndikanatha, ndinakumana ndi onse. mwa iwo Amayi ena achikuda omwe adayesanso kulowa mu sayansi ya shark-ndipo adawona zotsatira zake chifukwa izi ndi zomwe tidakambirana.Ndipo inu, monga, mukudziwa mu malingaliro anu, o, izi zingakhale zabwino.Izi zisintha miyoyo-dah (ph), dah-dah, dah-dah, willy-nilly.
Koma kuyang'ana munthu m'maso mwawo anati, sindikuganiza kuti ndine wanzeru mokwanira, sindikuganiza kuti ndingathe kuchita izi, ndikuganiza kuti ndine munthu, sabata ino yasintha izi ndizomwe tikufuna kwa ine. Kodi.Nthawi zowona mtima ndi anthu omwe mumawalimbikitsa ndizo-sindisintha izi pa chilichonse padziko lapansi.Kumeneko kunali kumverera kwakukulu kwambiri kuposa kale lonse.Sindisamala ngati ndapambana Mphotho ya Nobel kapena kufalitsa chikwi.Pa nthawiyo wina ananena kuti munandichitira zimenezi ndipo ndipitiriza kupereka.Tsiku lina ndidzakhala ngati iwe ndipo ndidzayenda kumbuyo kwanga.Ndithandizanso amayi amtundu, uku ndikupsopsona kwa chef.wangwiro.
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