JASMIN GRAHAM: Feem ntau ntawm peb cov khoom noj yog cov nqaij nruab deg, yog li nws pom tseeb tias tseem ceeb heev rau kuv tsev neeg txoj kev ua neej thiab txhua yam.
Graham: Kuv yog tus neeg coj txawv txawv, nws yuav nug cov lus nug xws li, nws yuav ua li cas thaum ntses tsis nyob ntawm peb lub phaj?Lawv nyob ntawm hiav txwv.Lawv muaj lub neej.Qhov no mus li cas?Thiab, koj paub, kuv tsev neeg yuav hais, koj nug ntau yam lus nug;koj tsuas noj ntses xwb.
SOFIA: Nws tsis yog txog thaum tom qab kev mus ncig hauv tsev kawm theem siab uas Jasmin tau kawm tias muaj kev tshawb fawb tiav tshwj xeeb hauv marine science.
Sophia: Lawv yeej yuav.Jasmin thaum kawg tau txais bachelor's degree hauv marine biology, qhov chaw nws kawm txog kev hloov pauv ntawm hammerhead sharks.Tom qab ntawd, rau nws tus tswv, nws tau tsom mus rau qhov teeb meem tseem ceeb ntawm cov hniav me me sawfish.Xav txog ib tug slender stingray nrog ib tug chainsaw hniav welded rau ntawm nws lub ntsej muag.
Sophia: Yog.Kuv txhais tau tias, kuv nyiam lub teeb zoo.Kuv nyiam lub teeb zoo.Kuv tsuas yog tsis pom ntau rays zoo li, nws zoo li-zoo li sawfish.koj paub kuv txhais li cas?
SOFIA: Tab sis qhov teeb meem yog, Jasmin tau hais tias, kev vam meej hauv daim teb no uas nws tus kheej thiab nyiam tshaj lij kuj tuaj yeem raug cais tawm.
Graham: Thoob plaws hauv kuv qhov kev paub, kuv tsis tau pom dua lwm tus poj niam dub kawm sharks.Kuv tsuas ntsib ib tug poj niam dub nyob rau hauv marine science, thiab yog thaum kuv muaj 23 xyoo.Yog li yuav luag tag nrho koj cov menyuam yaus thiab cov neeg laus lub neej tsis pom tus neeg zoo li koj tau ua qhov koj xav ua, Kuv txhais tau tias, txias li peb hais, zoo li tawg iav qab nthab……
SOFIA: Xyoo tas los, Jasmin qhov xwm txheej hloov pauv.Los ntawm hashtag #BlackInNature, nws tsim kev sib txuas nrog lwm cov poj niam dub uas kawm sharks.
Graham: Zoo, thaum peb xub ntsib hauv Twitter, nws yog qhov kev paub zoo heev.Kuv muab piv rau thaum koj lub cev qhuav dej, koj paub, koj nyob rau hauv cov suab puam los yog lwm qhov, koj haus dej thawj zaug, thiab koj tsis paub tias koj nqhis dej npaum li cas mus txog thaum koj haus thawj tus dej.
SOFIA: Cov dej ntws ntawd tau hloov mus rau hauv dej hiav txwv, lub koom haum tshiab hu ua Minorities hauv Shark Sciences lossis MISS.Yog li hauv kev ua yeeb yam niaj hnub no, Jasmin Graham tau tham txog kev tsim lub zej zog shark science rau cov poj niam ntawm cov xim.
SOFIA: Yog li Jasmin Graham thiab peb lwm tus poj niam dub shark kws tshawb fawb-Amani Webber-Schultz, Carlee Jackson, thiab Jaida Elcock-tsim kev sib txuas ntawm Twitter.Tom qab ntawd, thaum Lub Rau Hli 1st xyoo tas los, lawv tau tsim lub koom haum tshiab MISS.Lub Hom Phiaj-Txhawb thiab txhawb cov poj niam ntawm cov xim hauv kev tshawb fawb shark.
Graham: Thaum pib, koj paub, peb tsuas yog xav tsim lub zej zog.Peb tsuas yog xav kom lwm tus poj niam ntawm cov xim paub tias lawv tsis nyob ib leeg, thiab tsis xav tsis thoob tias lawv xav ua li ntawd.Thiab lawv tsis yog poj niam vim lawv xav ua qhov no.Lawv tsis yog neeg dub, haiv neeg lossis Latino, vim lawv xav ua li ntawd, lawv tuaj yeem muaj tag nrho lawv tus kheej, dhau los ua tus kws tshawb fawb thiab kawm txog sharks.Thiab cov khoom no tsis yog kev sib koom ua ke.Nws tsuas yog xav tshem tawm cov teeb meem uas twb muaj lawm los ntawm qhov ntawd.Cov teeb meem no ua rau peb xav tias peb yog cov qis dua, thiab ua rau peb xav tias peb tsis koom nrog, vim qhov ntawd tsis muaj tseeb.Tom qab ntawd peb pib…
Sophia: Qhov ntawd yog qee qhov tsis muaj tseeb.Qhov no yog ib txoj kev-Kuv nyiam qhov koj hais.Yog lawm, kiag li.Tab sis kuv txhais tau tias, kuv xav tias yog qhov tseeb-muaj ob peb yam uas kuv nyiam, tam sim ntawd xav ntes thiab tham nrog koj, vim hais tias, koj paub, koj hais, nyiam-Kuv tsis paub-hais li, yog Nws yog qhov zoo rau koj. tawg lub iav qab nthab, tab sis thaum koj ua, nws yog me ntsis phem.koj paub?Zoo li, kuv xav tias muaj lub tswv yim zoo li no, zoo li, lub sijhawm ntawd, koj zoo li, peb ua qhov no tiag tiag.Nws zoo li txhua yam kev tshoov siab, tab sis nws yuav tsum tau ua haujlwm ntau, xws li kev tsis ntseeg tus kheej thiab txhua yam zoo sib xws.Yog li kuv xav paub seb koj puas kam tham ntxiv txog qhov no nrog kuv.
Graham: Yog lawm, tau kawg.Nov yog ib qho uas kuv xav tau tshaj plaws los ua tus kws tshawb fawb…
Graham: ... ua txuj tshawb fawb yam tsis tas yuav ris lub nra hnyav ntxiv.Tab sis cov no yog daim npav kuv tau txais.Peb txhua tus tau pom txoj kev daws teeb meem no.Yog li txoj kev uas kuv ua nrog nws yog ua qhov kuv ua tau kom paub tseeb tias lub nra ntawm txhua tus hauv qab kuv sib dua.Kuv xav tias kuv tuaj yeem ua tau, koj paub, mus rau cov rooj sib tham thiab taug kev ncig ib yam li lwm tus ...
Graham: ... thiab tsis muaj scruples.Tab sis tsis yog, kuv feem ntau yuav tsum tau xyuas seb cov neeg puas yog micro-aggressive.Thiab, nws zoo li…
Graham:…Vim li cas koj hais li ntawd?Yog kuv yog neeg dawb, koj puas hais qhov no rau kuv?Yog tias kuv yog ib tug txiv neej, koj puas hais qhov no rau kuv?Zoo li, kuv yeej yog ib tug neeg tsis muaj kev sib cav, introverted.Kuv xav nyob ib leeg.Tab sis yog kuv ua li ntawd thiab zoo li kuv, cov neeg yuav khiav hla kuv.
Graham: Yog li kuv yuav tsum muaj zog heev.Kuv yuav tsum siv qhov chaw.Kuv yuav tsum nrov nrov.Thiab kuv yuav tsum tau ua txhua yam no uas ua tau tawm tsam kuv tus cwj pwm kom muaj nyob thiab tau hnov, uas yog kev ntxhov siab heev.
Sophia: Yog.kiag li.Koj tsuas yog xav mloog ib lo lus nruab nrab, haus ib lub npias me me, ces nug ib lo lus nug dav dav thaum kawg ntawm kev qhuab qhia kev tshawb fawb, koj puas paub?Thiab tsuas yog…
Sophia: Okay.Yog li cia peb tham ntxiv txog qhov no.Yog li ntawd, thawj zaug koj npaj siab yuav muab kev cob qhia rau cov poj niam ntawm cov xim hauv thaj chaw ntawm shark science.Koj puas tuaj yeem qhia kuv lub hom phiaj ntawm kev cob qhia no?
Graham: Yog.Yog li lub tswv yim ntawm kev cob qhia, peb yuav tsum siv nws es tsis txhob ua ib pab pawg neeg uas twb ua kev tshawb fawb.Peb yuav tsum siv lub sijhawm no los txhawb cov poj niam ntawm cov xim uas tseem tsis tau nkag mus rau hauv kev tshawb fawb shark thiab tsis muaj kev paub dhau los.Lawv tsuas yog clamoring sim kom tau.Yog li ntawd, peb txiav txim siab los ua ib yam kev qhia es tsis txhob dai.Peb kuj cia siab tias nws yog pub dawb rau cov neeg tuaj koom, vim hais tias kev lag luam teeb meem rau kev nkag mus rau hauv marine sciences yog cov teeb meem loj tshaj plaws los ntawm ntau tus neeg.
Graham: Marine science tsis yog tsim los rau cov tib neeg ntawm cov xwm txheej kev noj qab haus huv tshwj xeeb.Qhov no tsuas yog yooj yim thiab yooj yim.Lawv zoo li, koj yuav tsum tau txais kev paub.Tab sis koj yuav tsum them rau qhov kev paub no.
Graham: Huag, koj tsis tuaj yeem them rau qhov kev paub ntawd?Zoo, thaum kuv pom koj qhov kev xav tau, kuv yuav txiav txim tias koj tsis muaj kev paub dhau los.qhov no tsis ncaj ncees.Yog li ntawd, peb txiav txim siab, zoo, peb yuav tuav lub rooj sib tham peb hnub no.Peb yuav xyuas kom meej tias nws muaj kev ywj pheej txij li lub sijhawm cov neeg koom taug kev tawm ntawm lub qhov rooj mus rau lub sijhawm lawv rov qab los tsev.Peb qhib daim ntawv thov.Peb daim ntawv thov yog suav nrog raws li qhov ua tau.Peb tsis xav tau GPA.Peb tsis tau nug cov qhab nia xeem.Lawv tsis tas yuav nkag mus rau hauv university.Lawv tsuas yog yuav tsum tau piav qhia vim li cas lawv thiaj xav txog kev tshawb fawb shark, qhov cuam tshuam dab tsi yuav muaj, thiab vim li cas lawv thiaj xav los ua tswv cuab ntawm MISS.
SOFIA: MISS thawj lub rooj sib tham tau muaj nyob rau hauv Biscayne Bay, Florida ua ntej lub xyoo no, ua tsaug rau kev ua haujlwm hnyav thiab nyiaj pub dawb ntau, suav nrog kev siv Field School cov nkoj tshawb fawb.Kaum tus poj niam ntawm cov xim tau txais kev paub zoo hauv kev tshawb fawb shark nyob rau lub asthiv, suav nrog kev kawm nuv ntses ntev (cov txheej txheem nuv ntses) thiab kos cim sharks.Jasmin hais tias nws nyiam lub sijhawm yog thaum kawg ntawm hnub kawg.
Graham: Peb txhua tus zaum sab nraud, tus tsim thiab kuv, vim peb tau hais tias yog tias ib tus neeg muaj lus nug thaum lub sijhawm kawg, peb yuav nyob sab nraud thaum koj ntim khoom.Los nrog peb tham.Lawv tawm los ib tug los ntawm ib tug, nug peb cov lus nug kawg, thiab qhia rau peb hais tias lub weekend txhais tau li cas rau lawv.Ob peb lub sijhawm kuv xav tias kuv tab tom yuav quaj.thiab…
Graham: Tsuas yog saib ib tus neeg hauv lawv lub qhov muag, lawv hais tias, koj hloov kuv lub neej, yog tias kuv tsis tau ntsib koj, yog tias kuv tsis muaj kev paub zoo li no, kuv tsis xav tias kuv yuav ua tau, Kuv tau ntsib txhua tus. ntawm lawv Lwm cov poj niam ntawm cov xim uas tseem sim nkag mus rau hauv kev tshawb fawb shark-thiab pom qhov cuam tshuam vim qhov no yog ib yam uas peb tau tham.Thiab koj, zoo li, paub hauv koj lub siab, oh, qhov no yuav zoo heev.Qhov no yuav hloov lub neej-dah (ph), dah-dah, dah-dah, willy-nilly.
Tab sis saib ib tug ntawm lawv ob lub qhov muag, lawv hais tias, Kuv tsis xav tias kuv ntse txaus, kuv tsis xav tias kuv yuav ua tau qhov no, kuv xav tias kuv yog ib tug neeg, lub weekend hloov no yog raws nraim qhov peb xav tau rau kuv. Ua.Lub sijhawm ua siab dawb nrog cov neeg uas koj cuam tshuam tsuas yog-Kuv yuav tsis hloov qhov no rau txhua yam hauv ntiaj teb.Qhov ntawd yog qhov kev xav zoo tshaj plaws.Kuv tsis quav ntsej yog kuv yeej Nobel nqi zog los yog luam tawm ib txhiab ntawv.Lub sijhawm ntawd ib tug neeg hais tias koj ua qhov no rau kuv thiab kuv yuav muab ntxiv mus.Muaj ib hnub kuv yuav zoo li koj thiab kuv yuav taug qab kuv.Kuv kuj yuav pab cov poj niam ntawm cov xim, qhov no tsuas yog hnia los ntawm tus kws ua zaub mov.zoo tag nrho.
SOFIA: Kuv nyiam qhov koj saib, uas yog qhov kuv tab tom tos.Kuv tsis tau npaj txhij txhua.
SOFIA: Qhov ntu no yog tsim los ntawm Berly McCoy thiab Brit Hanson, kho los ntawm Viet Le, thiab tau kuaj xyuas qhov tseeb los ntawm Berly McCoy.Nov yog Madison Sophia.Nov yog NPR's niaj hnub science podcast SHORT WAVE.
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