JASMIN GRAHAM: ʻO ka hapa nui o kā mākou meaʻai he iʻa, no laila, he mea nui loa ia no ka ola o koʻu ʻohana a me nā mea āpau.
Graham: ʻO wau ke kanaka ʻē, nīnau ʻo ia i nā nīnau penei, he aha kāna e hana ai inā ʻaʻole ka iʻa ma kā mākou pā?Noho lākou ma ke kai.He ola ko lakou.Pehea kēia?A, ʻike ʻoe, e ʻōlelo koʻu ʻohana, nīnau ʻoe i nā nīnau he nui;ʻai wale ʻoe i ka iʻa.
SOFIA: ʻAʻole ma hope o kahi huakaʻi kula kiʻekiʻe i aʻo ai ʻo Jasmin aia kahi kahua noiʻi piha i ka ʻepekema moana.
Sophia: E hana maoli lākou.Ua loaʻa iā Jasmin ke kēkelē laepua ma ka biology moana, kahi āna i aʻo ai i ka ulu ʻana o nā manō hammerhead.Ma hope mai, no kona haku, ua nānā ʻo ia i ka iʻa ʻili niho liʻiliʻi.E noʻonoʻo ʻoe i kahi stingray lohi me kahi ʻili kaulahao i wili ʻia ma kona alo.
Sophia: ʻAe.ʻO koʻu manaʻo, makemake wau i ka mālamalama maikaʻi.Makemake au i ka mālamalama maikaʻi.ʻAʻole au i ʻike i ka nui o nā kukuna-like, he like me ka iʻa ʻili.ʻIke ʻoe i kaʻu ʻōlelo?
SOFIA: Akā ʻo ka pilikia, wahi a Jasmin, hiki ke hoʻokaʻawale ʻia ka kūleʻa ma kēia kahua āna i aloha ai a pilikino.
Graham: I koʻu ʻike ʻana, ʻaʻole au i ʻike i kekahi wahine ʻeleʻele e aʻo ana i ka manō.Ua hālāwai wau me kahi wahine ʻeleʻele i ka ʻepekema moana, a ʻo ia ka 23 o koʻu mau makahiki.No laila, ʻaʻole i ʻike i kou wā kamaliʻi a me kou ola ʻōpio i kahi kanaka e like me ʻoe i hana i kāu mea e makemake ai e hana, ʻo wau hoʻi, ʻoluʻolu e like me kā mākou e ʻōlelo nei, e like me ka haki ʻana i ke kaupaku aniani… …
SOFIA: I ka makahiki i hala, ua loli ke kūlana o Jasmin.Ma o ka hashtag #BlackInNature, ua hoʻokumu ʻo ia i nā pilina me nā wahine ʻeleʻele ʻē aʻe e aʻo ana i ka manō.
Graham: ʻAe, i ka wā i hui mua ai mākou ma Twitter, he mea kupanaha loa ia.Hoʻohālikelike wau i ka wā e maloʻo ai ʻoe, ʻike ʻoe, aia ʻoe i ka wao nahele a i ʻole ma kahi ʻē aʻe, inu ʻoe i kāu inu wai mua, a ʻaʻole ʻoe i ʻike i kou make wai a hiki i kou inu ʻana i ka wai mua.
SOFIA: Ua hoʻololi ʻia kēlā wai i kahi oasis, kahi hui hou i kapa ʻia ʻo Minorities in Shark Sciences a i ʻole MISS.No laila, ma ka hōʻikeʻike i kēia lā, ua kamaʻilio ʻo Jasmin Graham e pili ana i ke kūkulu ʻana i kahi kaiāulu ʻepekema manō no nā wahine kala.
SOFIA: No laila ʻo Jasmin Graham a me ʻekolu mau mea noiʻi wahine manō ʻeleʻele-Amani Webber-Schultz, Carlee Jackson, a me Jaida Elcock-i hoʻokumu i kahi pilina ma Twitter.A laila, i ka lā 1 o Iune i ka makahiki i hala, ua hoʻokumu lākou i kahi hui hou MISS.Pahuhopu-E paipai a kākoʻo i nā wāhine kala i ka ʻepekema manō.
Graham: I ka hoʻomaka ʻana, ʻike ʻoe, makemake wale mākou e kūkulu i kahi kaiāulu.Makemake wale mākou e ʻike nā wahine kala ʻē aʻe ʻaʻole lākou wale nō, a ʻaʻole ia he mea kupanaha ke makemake lākou e hana pēlā.A ʻaʻole lākou he wahine no ka mea makemake lākou e hana i kēia.ʻAʻole lākou he ʻeleʻele, ʻōiwi a Latino paha, no ka mea makemake lākou e hana pēlā, hiki iā lākou ke loaʻa i ko lākou ʻike āpau, lilo i ʻepekema a aʻo i nā manō.A ʻaʻole kūʻokoʻa kēia mau mea.Makemake wale ʻo ia e wehe i nā keʻakeʻa e kū nei mai laila.ʻO kēia mau mea keʻakeʻa ke manaʻo nei mākou he haʻahaʻa mākou, a ke manaʻo nei mākou ʻaʻole pono mākou, no ka mea, he lapuwale ia.A laila hoʻomaka mākou…
Sophia: He mea lapuwale koʻikoʻi kēlā.He ala kēia-makemake wau i kāu ʻōlelo ʻana.ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo.Akā, manaʻo wau he ʻoiaʻiʻo ia - aia kekahi mau mea aʻu i makemake koke ai e hopu a kamaʻilio pū me ʻoe, no ka mea, ʻike ʻoe, ʻōlelo ʻoe, like-ʻAʻole wau ʻike-e like, ʻae He mea maikaʻi ia nahaha ke kaupaku aniani, aka, ke hana oe, he ino iki.maopopo iā ʻoe?Like, manaʻo wau aia kekahi manaʻo, like, i kēlā mau manawa, like ʻoe, ke hana maoli nei mākou i kēia.Ua like ia me nā mea hoʻoikaika a pau, akā pono ia i ka hana nui, e like me ka kānalua ponoʻī a me nā mea like a pau.No laila makemake wau e ʻike inā makemake ʻoe e kamaʻilio hou me aʻu e pili ana i kēia.
Graham: ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo.ʻO kēia kekahi o nā mea aʻu i makemake nui ai e lilo i ʻepekema…
Graham: …e hana i ka ʻepekema me ka ʻole e amo i ke kaumaha a i ʻole ke kaumaha.Akā ʻo ia nā kāleka i loaʻa iaʻu.Ua loaʻa iā mākou a pau kahi hoʻonā i kēia pilikia.No laila, ʻo ke ala aʻu e hana ai, ʻo ia ka hana ʻana i kaʻu mea maikaʻi loa e ʻoi aku ka māmā o ke kaumaha o nā mea a pau ma hope oʻu.Manaʻo wau e hiki iaʻu, ʻike ʻoe, hele i nā hālāwai a ʻauwana e like me nā mea ʻē aʻe ...
Graham: … a me ka hopohopo ʻole.Akā ʻaʻole, pono pinepine wau e nānā inā he micro-aggressive nā kānaka.A, ua like ia…
Graham: …No ke aha ʻoe i ʻōlelo ai pēlā?Inā he keʻokeʻo au, e ʻōlelo mai anei ʻoe i kēia iaʻu?Inā he kāne wau, e ʻōlelo mai anei ʻoe i kēia iaʻu?E like me, he kanaka hoʻopaʻapaʻa ʻole wau, introverted.Makemake au e noho mehameha.Akā, inā e hana au pēlā a e like me aʻu, e holo nā kānaka ma luna oʻu.
Graham: No laila pono wau e ikaika loa.Pono wau e lawe i kahi ākea.Pono wau e leo nui.A pono wau e hana i kēia mau mea a pau e kūʻē i koʻu ʻano i mea e ola ai a lohe ʻia, he mea hoʻonāukiuki loa.
Sophia: ʻAe.ʻOiaʻiʻo.Makemake wale ʻoe e hoʻolohe i ka haʻiʻōlelo haʻahaʻa, inu i ka pia mediocre, a laila nīnau i kahi nīnau maʻamau ma ka hopena o ka haʻiʻōlelo ʻepekema, ʻike ʻoe?A wale nō…
Sophia: ʻAe.No laila e kamaʻilio hou kākou no kēia.No laila, manaʻo mua ʻoe e hoʻolako i nā haʻawina no nā wahine kala i ke kula o ka ʻepekema manō.Hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi iaʻu i ke kumu o kēia mau papa hana?
Graham: ʻAe.No laila ʻo ka manaʻo o ka papa hana, pono mākou e hoʻohana ma mua o ka hui ʻana o ka poʻe e hana nei i ka ʻepekema.Pono mākou e hoʻohana i kēia manawa e hāpai i nā wahine kala ʻaʻole i komo i ka ʻepekema manō a ʻaʻohe ʻike.Ke uwē wale nei lākou e hoʻāʻo e loaʻa.No laila ua hoʻoholo mākou e hoʻolilo iā ia i ʻano aʻo ma mua o ke kau ʻana.Manaʻo pū mākou he manuahi ia no nā poʻe komo, no ka mea, ʻo nā keʻakeʻa hoʻokele waiwai i ke komo ʻana i ka ʻepekema kai ʻo ia nā mea pale nui e kū nei i nā poʻe he nui.
Graham: ʻAʻole kūkulu ʻia ka ʻepekema moana no nā poʻe o kahi kūlana socioeconomic kikoʻī.He maʻalahi a maʻalahi kēia.Ua like lākou, pono ʻoe e loaʻa ka ʻike.Akā pono ʻoe e uku no kēia ʻike.
Graham: ʻAe, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke uku no kēlā ʻike?ʻAe, i koʻu ʻike ʻana i kāu resume, e hoʻoholo wau he ʻike ʻole ʻoe.aole pono keia.No laila, ua hoʻoholo mākou, a, e mālama mākou i kēia seminar ʻekolu lā.E hōʻoia mākou he kaʻawale ia mai ka wā e hele ai ka poʻe komo i waho o ka puka mua a hiki i ko lākou hoʻi ʻana i ka home.Ua wehe mākou i ka noi.ʻO kā mākou noi e like me ka hiki.ʻAʻole mākou i koi i kahi GPA.ʻAʻole mākou i noi i nā helu hōʻike.ʻAʻole pono lākou e komo i ke kulanui.Pono lākou e wehewehe i ke kumu o ko lākou hoihoi ʻana i ka ʻepekema manō, he aha ka hopena o kēia, a no ke aha lākou e makemake ai e lilo i lālā no MISS.
SOFIA: Ua mālama ʻia ka seminar mua a MISS ma Biscayne Bay, Florida ma mua o kēia makahiki, mahalo i ka hana nui a me ka nui o nā haʻawina, me ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka moku noiʻi o Field School.Ua loaʻa i nā wāhine kala he ʻumi ka ʻike ma ka noiʻi manō i ka hopena pule, e like me ke aʻo ʻana i ka lawaiʻa longline (kahi ʻano lawaiʻa) a me ka māka ʻana i nā manō.Ua ʻōlelo ʻo Jasmin ʻo kāna manawa punahele ma ka hopena o ka lā hope.
Graham: Noho mākou a pau i waho, ʻo wau a me ka mea hoʻokumu, no ka mea, ua ʻōlelo mākou inā he nīnau kekahi i ka manawa hope loa, aia mākou i waho ke ʻohi ʻoe.E hele mai e kamaʻilio me mākou.Puka pakahi mai lakou, ninau mai ia makou i ka lakou mau ninau hope, a hoike mai ia makou i ke ano o ka hopena pule ia lakou.No kekahi mau manawa, ua like au me he mea lā ua kokoke au e uē.a…
Graham: Ke nānā wale nei i kekahi ma ko lākou mau maka, ʻōlelo lākou, ua hoʻololi ʻoe i koʻu ola, inā ʻaʻole wau e hālāwai me ʻoe, inā ʻaʻole i loaʻa iaʻu kēia ʻano ʻike, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hana, ua hālāwai wau me nā mea a pau. ʻO lākou kekahi mau wāhine kala ʻē aʻe i hoʻāʻo e komo i ke kahua o ka ʻepekema manō-a ʻike i ka hopena no ka mea he mea kēia a mākou i kūkākūkā ai.A ʻike ʻoe i loko o kou manaʻo, e, maikaʻi paha kēia.E hoʻololi kēia i nā ola-dah (ph), dah-dah, dah-dah, willy-nilly.
Akā i ka nānā ʻana i kekahi ma ko lākou mau maka, ʻōlelo lākou, ʻaʻole wau i manaʻo he akamai wau, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hana i kēia, manaʻo wau he kanaka wau, ua hoʻololi kēia hopena pule ʻo ia kā mākou makemake noʻu. Hana.ʻO nā manawa ʻoiaʻiʻo me nā poʻe āu e hoʻoikaika ai he pololei-ʻaʻole wau e hoʻololi i kēia no kekahi mea o ka honua.ʻO ia ka manaʻo nui loa.ʻAʻohe oʻu manaʻo inā lanakila wau i ka Nobel Prize a i ʻole hoʻopuka i hoʻokahi kaukani pepa.I kēlā manawa i ʻōlelo ai kekahi ua hana ʻoe i kēia noʻu a e hoʻomau wau e hāʻawi.I kekahi lā e like au me ʻoe a e hele au ma hope oʻu.E kōkua nō hoʻi au i nā wahine kala, he honi wale nō kēia mai ke kumu kuke.hemolele.
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